>> oh, my gosh! a huge tornado northeast of lincoln, nebraska. time is 2:54. right in front of us, guys,

holy (bleep). violent tornado, guys. violent tornado! >> wow, that looks like it's out of a movie. we begin this hour with a fox weather alert devastating video and catastrophic tornados ripping across the heartland and the worst may not be over as more severe storms are expected throughout the weekend. fox weather is in elkhorn, nebraska with the very latest, nicole. >> david, good morning. historic images of what's left behind after a monster tornado decimated the community of elkhorn, nebraska here. you'll take a look at one home where there's not a wall left standing. this home flattened in the sheer force of that violent tornado you saw moments ago. and you looked at what this once made this a home, roof,walls, ripped through the neighborhood. it's not just one home.

there's a sea of them and truly, a line of them that you can see that have been damaged one way or another. but at this time we're talking about the next morning, and it's incredible to see just how many people, an army or so of volunteers that have shown up to start picking up the pieces of the destruction left behind here in douglas county, nebraska. we're just 15, 20 miles or so west of downtown omaha and this is what this is like. someone just told me this is nebraska nice. it's really the effort from the community here that recognizes the need and those families who are now left with barely anything. they're now digging through the rubble of their homes to try to find what is salvageable. many of them, again, displaced at this point. thankfully we've got the american red cross and the salvation army to offer additional resources for families that don't have

anywhere to sleep at night. offering a helping hand, but truly, a nightmare situation and a terrifying night for at least one family who lives in this home who tell me they piled into the truck as they watched the tornado touch down just miles away and come barreling towards them and getting into their truck and driving away as fast as they could. other families in this neighborhood, telling me they hid in the basement and shielded each other as debris flew all around them and you can see, it's hard to make out now because we've got so many trucks here, but in the distance, you'll notice home after home after home where roofs came crashing down, windows have been blown out and roofs torn off their bases there and as far as the eye can see, the destruction goes on for miles. catas catastrophic, and a miracle so far that no one was killed, at least not that we know of, which is wonderful news to hear

in the wake of such destruction, david. david: it's amazing no one was killed. thank god for the warnings. thank you, nicole, appreciate that. we shift gears to a legal storm. the criminal trial against former president trump is about to enter week two of testimony. cb cotton is outside of trump tower in new york city with the latest, cb. >> hi, david, in the first week of evidence against former president donald trump new york state called three witnesses to the stand, trying to convince a jury that trump thought to keep alleged sexual encounters a secret while he ran for president in 2016. and now, ex-media mogul, david pecker, testified for days for his alleged hush money payments to former playmate mcdougall and stormy daniels who both claimed to have sexual relations with trump, something that trump denies.

exposing that pecker testified that trump thanked him for concealing stories, in 2018, the fbi told them that trump didn't thank him. and ronna graph took the stand on friday. she testified she vaguely remembers seeing daniels at trump tower once. and when the court resumes on tuesday, bank executive gary farrow will return to the stand. on friday he testified that michael cohen, trump's ex-fixer wired $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels right before election day. meanwhile, few people think that trump is treated the same as other criminal defendants here in new york. a new cnn poll finds that 34% say trump is being treated more leniently. another 34% say no, more harshly. now, trump faces a slew of legal troubles outside of new

york city, including federal charges that he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. trump has claimed presidential immunity, something the supreme court could rule on, following a hearing this past thursday. the longer the justices wait to issue that decision, the more likely that case will be delayed, david. david: cb, thank you very much. so did this week's testimony at the trial indicate which side is ahead so far? here to discuss is former deputy attorney general dupuis and former prosecutor, katie, good to see you both. katie, first to you. part of this, the national enquirer's publisher, mr. pecker, part of his testimony seemed to actually help donald trump. i mean, he was a prosecution witness, but he said he had done the nda's, so-called catch and grab schemes, buy a story that somebody didn't want to get out.

he did it for around schwarzenegger, did it for tiger woods. it may be unseemly, but it's not illegal, right? >> absolutely, it's not illegal. and based upon the prosecutor's case, sits determining whether they're trying to win on a criminal conviction or trying to get sordid details out. we don't know precisely what they're accusing donald trump of doing criminally. and they have to show that he falsified records in order to further some other crime. to this day that has not been affirmatively disclosed by the prosecution and there are many convoluted theories out there that don't quite add up. david: yeah, but tom, i was talking to annie mccarthy earlier. maybe there are a couple of lawyers on the jury, but the

others don't know if it's legal or not. and the judge isn't telling them. isn't it the role of the judge to explain when the prosecution or an attorney goes off the rail suggesting something is illegal when it's not? >> yeah, the judge's role is to explain the law to the jury. as we know that's not going to happen until the end of the case and the jury is about to be sent to the jury room and deliberate. i think the prosecutors have been putting in a lot of evidence that your description captured it accurately, sordid, but not criminal. we learned a lot about the shadowy world of the tabloids. i'm not sure that we learned a lot, but the prosecutors are playing a slow game. maybe days or weeks from now trying to connect the dots through the testimony through no one else, but michael cohen. david: we'll wait and see for that. katie, it looks like a lot of grounds for appeal here based

on what we were talking about. question -- that could take a long time. in the meantime, if the jury does convict donald trump, if prosecution gets its way, could they literally send him to jail? >> well, theoretically he does face jail time for these charges, but according to alvin bragg's own stance on how he handles criminal conduct in this state, he's a first time offender, it's not a violent crime. david: i'm sorry to interrupt, but he's donald trump and nothing that would imply-- that's the reality. david: with donald trump, because this is a political prosecution? >> absolutely, that's the sincere risk for sure. if there's conviction, jail time is one of the possibilities for punishment. david: i said it's a political prosecution, but that's not just my opinion. it's everybody who looks at a case that was refused-- i mean, the southern district of new york, the attorneys for the u.s. attorneys for southern

district are hard core prosecutors, if they'd sound something and looked into this case as a misdemeanor, if they had found something they would have prosecuted. they didn't. even bragg's prosecution looked at it and said, there's nothing prosecuting. it wasn't until bragg came in and he's got political ambitions and we've seen it happen with many of the prosecutions with trump. >> yeah, i think one of the big challenges for the prosecutors here, frankly, is telling the jury a story and evidence to enables them to find criminal activity here. a lot of the evidence the prosecutors have been putting in so far come in the form of complicated financial documents and e-mails, talking about setting up limited liability companies and the like and i think the danger for the prosecutors, they're going to make this case more complex than it needs to be. that jurors are going to have difficulty following all of this and at the end of the day to your point when it comes time for the judge to instruct a jury about what the law is,

they're going to say hey, we heard a lot of industry about hush money and coverups and catch and kill, but whether there's a crime here. david: and the immunity that would essentially kill jack smith's case against him for january 6th, the mainstream media pundits, the lawyers who all just talk to themselves, don't seem to talk to anybody who disagrees with them, they were surprised and shocked how sympathetic to the trump side the members of the supreme court were. were you? it seemed like they were pretty worried about looking at law fair, that we see in the bragg case and others and seeing that go on and on and on add inf infiniteum in this country. >> some were hoping for affirming of the d.c. circuit division, saying there's no immunity for the president,

which is preposterous. there is immunity the question is to what degree. the court is going to have to grapple with that to avoid an endless cycle for political prosecutions if it goes forward. and it doesn't look like it will go on before the election. david: tom, i owe you one. thank you both for being here. and anti-israel protests spreading at colleges across america. we'll take you to one of the campuses and talk to a jewish student who filed for a report for being harassed. we'll tell you what he saw. and the president will address a dinner tonight, supposed to be light-hearted will he address the tension at home and abroad. you're in good hands with allstate.

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david: don't you think that omar needs to be educated about the movement she seems to be supporting? >> i am not going to comment on what her education is. i would love to have a conversation with her about why, what's happening on that campus includes things that are so deeply anti-semitic and by the way, anti-semitism, what starts with hatred of jews never ends that way. david: democratic congresswoman kathy manning telling us last hour that she would like to discuss the dangerous rhetoric on college campuses with her democratic colleague omar who visited at columbia university. that's where our steve harrigan is. >> david, the protests in the second week and no sign of progress. there are still tents on the lawn and the university hoping to clear that up in time for graduation, but no progress yet. they're dealing with students and they've told the students there will be no police called in against them again.

they tried that once and failed. the university though has barred one of the student protest leaders from campus. james, social media posts said people were lucky he was not out for zionist students and what they're doing is not enough. >> my peers, my friends my family are afraid. i cannot walk around campus without looking visibly jewish without preparing for the possibility someone might spit on or attack me. we have been afraid all year and i'm done with it. i am no longer afraid. i am extremely angry. >> at hot spots, different campuses around the country, you see administrators trying a variety of approaches. at emery emory in atlanta tear

gas and some are threatening to suspend those who set up tents on campus for up to three years. david: thank you very much. jewish students are demanding more protection and accountability from their institutions. my next guest is one of them. noah letterman is a jewish student at columbia university who filed a report this week with campus security for being harassed. noah, welcome. thank you for being here. what exactly happened to you? in what way were you harassed? >> thank you for having me. so when i was walking from my dorm, which is on 122nd street towards campus, i was stopped in the street by a man who saw my yarmulkah and he said, but you're not jewish, you're european. i said excuse me because i was

confused. he continued to harassment for several minutes, that i don't look jewish, i don't present as jewish and continued to follow me before i reported it to my dorm security. david: so, had you heard anything back from columbia? we, by the way, reached out to columbia university to get their reaction to your side of the story, and they haven't so far talked to us. have they talked to you? >> no, so i reported it to-- i'm a student in the joint program with the jewish theological seminary and columbia university, i reported it to jcs and their security there much more equipped to handle things quickly and much more likely to respond and actually take action. david: now, have you seen -- we heard steve harrigan's report mention one student who actually has been barred from the campus, but we have seen pictures of him. in fact, he was actually in an encounter with ilhan omar when

she was there on friday, yesterday. have you seen people who were supposed to be off the campus, students or professors, who are now still on campus? >> there certain have been issued i've seen with my own two eyes and videos of professors and students who the president had claimed are no longer welcome on campus, on campus. i had an opportunity to attend the congressional hearing on last wednesday and i remember congresswoman is stefanik, one person grading papers and not returning, he was not grading papers. he was in the encampments. david: the bottom line, she's feckless, she says she's getting rid of the people, they're still there. she says she's still negotiating rather than getting rid of the protesters which she originally said she was going to be done. i wonder exactly what they're negotiating about. do you know what the demands are of the students and why negotiate when clearly they're

in violation of the rules? >> well, the demands have been made pretty clear by the protesters and the people in the encampment. they claim they want columbia to divest, disclose, divest, we will not stop, we will not rest. however, i find it hard to believe that's the only negotiation going on. i'm sure they have other requests and demands they would like to have met. i would say, regarding the president, that when i came home from washington d.c. i was in a good mood because i was encouraged by the testimonies i'd heard during the hearing, especially the president of columbia's promise that they would not tolerate threats. but the flares were going off and the encampment had gone throughout the night and i realized it was all just talk. david: there is a fecklessness about what's happening in columbia's reaction. finally, i'm just wondering, do you and your parents to the extent that they help you pay

for all of this, think you've wasted your money. >> i'll say this year has been a disappointment. right now i'm in long island because i simply could not focus on campus so i keep here for the weekend to prepare for my final exams. i'll say it's very disappointing, because the president pointed out, but she hasn't seemed to care, the seniors-- i'm a freshman, but the seniors ended their high school on zoom and forced to finish college on zoom and that's a terrible thing. david: 2020, 2024. and by the way, is there any chance that columbia could cancel their graduation ceremony? >> i saw that usc announced their cancellation. i don't think columbia would cancel their graduation and that's actually the issue that i was-- i would like to discuss is that i think that commencement is the most important thing for the university. so, by the time commencement rolls around, the president

will have the encampment cleared. and she's not doing it now. if she does it for graduation, she cares more about optics than for students. david: best of luck, but it's hard to see under this administration that happening. >> thank you. david: see you later. have a good weekend. while tensions on college campuses soar, israel is stepping up its fight against hamas overseas and then we cover widespread damage from devastating tornados touching down overnight in the middle of the country. we'll tell you where the severe storm system is heading to next. that's coming up. at three in the morning. any time of the day. what people don't know is that not all dirt is the same. you need dirt with the right kind of nutrients. look at this new organic soil from miracle-gro. everybody should have it. it worked great for us. this is as good as gold in any garden. if people only knew that it really is about the dirt.

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>> as anti-israel protests spread across the u.s., they are also popping up overseas.

this as tensions continue to rise in the middle east. stephanie bennett is in london with this. >> david, those protests are popping up in london, sweden and tel aviv the groups are demanding a cease-fire and release of hostages. this is as strikes are continuing in rafah. hundreds of thousands took to central london for the pro-palestine marks, organized by the palestine solidarity campaign marking a protest since the war began in early october. >> i'm showing solidarity with the people of gaza, people of palestine who have experienced six months of besiegement, bombing. as a mother, i am really distressed at seeing the amount of children that's been killed. >> meanwhile, an israeli strike hit rafah city where more than 1.3 million civilians are

shelterings. and they're searching the rubble for their belongings and others gathering at the hospital. there is a frustration over lack of hostage deals. estimated 133 people still missing, including eight americans, but new today, reports are indicating that hamas is reviewing a new israeli proposal for a cease-fire in gaza. this comes as egypt stepped up its efforts to secure a deal between israel and hamas to end the war and prevent a further israeli ground offensive in rafah. they said that the palestinian militant group will review the latest proposal and submit a response. no details on the specifics were given. a new satellite image showed new aid port in gaza, accompanying u.s. military pier off shore. and there are security concerns how it will be delivered. but the u.s. forces say its

troops were not go ashore, but a british troop may assist. no decision yet. dozens of leaders will meet at the world economic forum, including the u.s. secretary of state as well as prime ministers from different countries. david: my next guest says it's crucial that america continues to back israel in the face of growing protests here. retired four-star general david perkins joins me now. thank you for coming in. we were talking to mike pompeo in the last hour about the fact that now that in america, people are just fed up with these protests because they've gone so far to support hamas terrorists and others, that israel might feel emboldened after passover ends next week to go into rafah. what happens then? specifically what will iran do if israel goes into rafah and what happens to our arab coalition that was united against iran during their attack of israel?

>> well, it is critically important that the united states continues to back israel, our closest ally in that part of the world and the only democracy there. i think it's interesting when we see the various protests around the world. everyone is calling for a cease-fire which means they want it to go back to the way it was on 6 october before hamas unilaterally without provocation attack israel and try to rewind the tape which means you'll leave hamas in the position where it can at will attack israel again. so, it's incredibly important that israel destroy hamas' capability to control the palestinian people, owe press the palestinian people and export their terrorism into israel. now it's a difficult balancing act because they need to destroy hamas' war making capability, at the same time minimize collateral damage. so it's a tough mission, but they really don't have any choice, but to take hamas' capability to attack again away from them.

david: okay, but general, again, my specific question is what will iran do then? because iran might feel emboldened itself. if israel goes into rafah and bound to be civilian casualties. if iran strikes israel again, will the coalition, the arab coalition united against iran's strike hold? or will it fall apart because of what they see in rafah? >> i think the israeli response to the iranian attack was very strategic, thinking about that singular point. a lot of people were complaining, well, it's only one or two missiles and minimal damage. that was not the intent. the intent of the israeli response was to demonstrate to iran that israel can penetrate their air defenses and hit them where it hurts the most. so that was a big message sent to iran, you need to back out of this because iran's attack was pretty much thwarted, as you said with the coalition of

u.s., european and arab neighbors. so it was proven that iran really has limited conventional capability to attack israel, yet, israel maintains a pretty sophisticated capability to attack iran if they want to and i think that was a very strong message and i think iran will think twice before attempting what they did with their previous attack. david: all right. very quickly on china, i'm going to ask you a diplomatic question, but we saw antony blinken go in there a couple of days ago and basically not push them on any of the issues. they were talking about cooperating on fentanyl. well we know that china doesn't cooperate. they do it. they didn't mention tik tok. do you think we're going to get anywhere with those kind of conversations instead of tough talk when dealing with ccp? >> well, we just have to realize that china is always looking out for their own interests. so we can't be naive about that. so we try to find out where we can cooperate with them, but

never let our guard down and understand that if there's an opportunity for their advantage, they will take it. david: absolutely. we've seen it happen too many times. david perkins, thank you, general, thank you for coming in. >> have a great day. david: and president biden is set to talk at the correspondent's dinner, tensions abroad. is that a place to break the tensions? and tornado warnings for millions of americans today after a flurry of twisters ripped through the heartland overnight. that's next. with schwab investing themes™, it's easy to invest in ideas you believe in. spot a trend in electric vehicles? have a passion for online gaming? or want to explore the space economy? choose from over 40 themes, each with up to 25 stocks identified by our unique algorithm. buy it as-is or customize to align with your goals. all at your fingertips. schwab investing themes. 40 customizable themes. up to 25 stocks in just a few clicks. ♪

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>> well, the central u.s. getting slammed by massive tornados overnight. thousands of residents in nebraska and iowa still without power. millions of others still under a severe weather warning. no deaths reported yet. that's the only good news we can report on the story. fox news chief meteorologist rick reichmuth is here with the very latest on all of this, rick. >> it's amazing not to have fatalities when you see the size of this tornado, especially the one tornado that cut across parts of nebraska yesterday. we'll see storms like this happening in the daytime, a visual cue that it's coming and this tornado is on the ground for a long time. there was a good warning it was coming their way. this is the storm that moved across parts of the great lakes, maybe weather around the great lakes today. and one of the pieces of energy

is moving in across parts of southern plains and we have two tornado warnings across parts of oklahoma. a watch in effect until 1:00 and we'll see some pop up to the east of this this afternoon and we're expecting to see a lot of impacts from this. one of them hail, possibly softball sized hail and definitely strong winds, but it's the tornado concern that's probably our biggest threat. one other component to this is later on this afternoon, we'll see very heavy rain move in across parts of eastern oklahoma, ports of arkansas and missouri and a big flood threat. this is the biggest threat for severe weather. the great lakes down towards the big bend in texas, but anywhere you see maybe this darker red area and pink, where we expect to see tornados. some of the tornados, especially in this pink area, could be ef-3, 4 or 5 and

likely some long tracks. so on the ground for a long time as it moves through this area. there's a lot of population from oklahoma city over towards tulsa, joplin, back to wichita. a lot of people need to watch this one. we're not done yet. maybe a diminished threat, but with us, again, iowa down towards texas in the bulls eye of this. four day severe weather outbreak and today is the third day and today, likely the worst of the four days, so a lot of rough weather ahead for us throughout this afternoon and evening. david: rick, thank you for that and warnings save lives, by the way. that's why it's warnings that save the lives and thankfully no deaths yet, but be prepared, folks. thank you, rick. we're days from college decision day, as students pick where they're going to go in the fall some are likely to weigh the protests across the country and not to mention the

astronomical cost. and kelly is at the university of chicago with more on that. kelly. >> david, the university of chicago is one of, if know the most expensive university in the nation. federal student debt interest rates are set, using a formula that's mandated by federal law, not by the department of education, and it uses treasury data from the month of may and that's important to note because we're going to use april to make our estimate from the next academic year. based on the april auction, we can see a rate of 6.16%. the official number will be determined next month, not only is that up from 5 1/2%, that's are recession era levels. 2007-2008 school year, the from rate 6.8%, and began to decrease and then fluctuate. interest on government student loans for undergraduates is capped at 8.25%. meanwhile, the cost of tuition

is soaring. the labor department says tuition and fees have gone up 859% since 1983. inflation has increased 219% in the same period. according to the new york federal reserve, for every $1 received by a higher education institution, in subsidized federal student loans, college tuition increases by 60 cents. president biden has forgiven $153 billion in loans so far. that still leaves 1.6 trillion left in outstanding payments, david. david: kelly, thank you very much. the committee for responsible federal budget says this will only add to our national debt and cause tuition prices to go up even higher. committee for a responsible government president, maya mcginnis joins me now to discuss. thank you for joining me. you think that number that kelly just told us is way underdone that you actually say that president biden's already

spent $600 billion, 600 billion on debt consolation, how did you come up with that figure? >> well, we've been looking at the different policies in the past that were both implemented during covid and the various attempts at debt forgiveness and our estimates is that not only has he spent hundreds of billions already, but the new policies that he's talking about could range, definitely hundreds of billions more, could range from a quarter to three quarters of a trillion dollars added to national debt. let me just say, first, the problem of student debt is huge, i'm the mother of two college aged children, it's very expensive to go to college these days and the problem with the biden administration's approach is, it would not bring those costs down. david: yeah. >> the more that we subsidize the cost of student debt by giving more money directly for that, and for debt forgiveness, it actually drives the cost up. david: of course. >> so we need to look at this

structurally not as debt forgiveness. david: one of the biggest fans of the debt forgiveness besides the students that get the debt forgiven are the colleges, it takes a load off their back. they don't have to worry about it, they can willy nilly raise the price as much as they want, that's why we see the outrageous tuitions. the president claims what they're doing with the department of education and dealing with student debt, it's bookkeeping, it's not going to cost taxpayers. to which you say what? >> that's just not the case. first off when the government says something is free, there's no such thing. any free thing by the government means other people are covering the costs through taxes, or getting less of other government services or in the case of borrowing and adding to the debt which is what we seem to do all the time these days, we're asking future generations, younger people to pay for the costs so the irony of this of course is that we're trying to help students struggling with student debt by borrowing in a way they're going to have to repay.

so, you know, this is too big a policy for the white house to take it on on its own. it needs to be done in cooperation and conjunction with congress. it needs to be done in a way that doesn't add to the national debt which is part of what's pushing up the interest rates you were just talking about, the higher interest rates makes everything more expensive. it needs to be done in a way to recognize, to pay for it and bring the cost of college down. david: by the way, i want to put up on the screen, most americans disapprove of the student debt relief and they seem to understand it, the new poll from nbc news shows that 51% disapprove and just 44% approve of the loan relief, so we'll see what happens. we'll leave it at that. and thanks for he can -- explaining it. >> thank you. david: and a shooting near where president biden will go

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>> back to our nation's capital where police say they have a suspect in custody after five people were injured in a shooting last night. this all went down near where president biden is set to speak later tonight at the white house correspondents' dinner. david spunt is live in d.c. with the latest details. >> hi, david. all five have non-life threatening injuries. it happened on a busy friday night with hundreds of people around, certainly a scary situation. it happened in the 1200 block of connecticut avenue northwest. five adult victims, as you said, a suspect in custody. they recovered one gun. authorities did. a fight inside a local business the decades nightclub spilled out into the street. d.c. police and the secret service were on scene in minutes. it happened not even a mile from the location of the white house correspondents' dinner

featuring president biden, the vice-president and both of their spouses on the scene, meaning heavy police presence and secret service in the area tonight anyway and of course, after this, much more vigilance. the shooting comes a little a month after d.c. mayor muriel bowser signed into law, putting millions on the streets in the neighborhoods that needed the most from crime. and homiciding were down 24%, and last night's shooting, where bars and places where people hang out. david: i know it well, i grew up there. and president biden set to deliver remarks, as we just said, at the correspondents' dinner. normally a lighthearted event. will that be with tensions rising all over the world? we'll tackle that next.

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>> well, as we mentioned, president biden is set to speak later today at the white house correspondents' dinner. normally a night full of joking around. with tensions high on middle east and on college campuses in the u.s. and a lot of demonstrations in d.c. not far from where he's going to be. will the tone with more serious. and joining me columnist judy kirtz, who will be attending, my sympathies. i've had my share of those dinners. and judging by the softball interviews that the president's giving with howard stern and not really very serious journalists. i suspect it's going to be light fare, don't you? >> it's usually a light fare at

the white house correspondents' dinner of course, david. self-deprecation is always on the menu at the correspondents' dinner and that's certainly what president biden is expected to do with his remarks tonight, but it's also, it does offer a serious opportunity for the president to take a serious turn at some point in his remarks and he has to acknowledge the ongoing wars, israel against hamas and ukraine. and he did say in the interview with howard stern that he's going to talk about the value of a free press. the things that get the headlines, the barbs, the punches he's going to throw in the form of punchlines. david: the press is only valuable if they get an answer from people in charge and he's not giving answers. >> he did the interview with howard stern. david: that wasn't serious. that was a softball to the 10th

degree interview. >> you're speaking to what many journalists have said about the frequency of him speaking to the press and that's fair criticism that he hasn't given many interviews to independent journalists, but this dinner tonight does offer him the opportunity to kind of hit back at those critics who, you know, used that self-deprecating humor to throw some barbs their way at the press and media and wrap it up in a bow in the form of a joke and humor. david: a hardball interview you should be giving the president of the united states if you're a journalist, the issues underwater. nbc, give them credit, they had an interesting poll last weekend and showed that every single issue that americans really care about, of course, i know abortion is one thing that he's better than trump on. look at this, do you approve of

handling of the economy, 59% disapprove. 39% approve. border security, 69%. do you approve of student loan relief, 51% disapprove. only 44% approve. but border security, he is way underwater. disapprove is 69%, approve is only 28%. i mean, these are the issues on way people are going to be voting. >> and i think he will mention that. he will be remiss not to mention something, you know, related to those more serious issues, but this dinner does offer him the chance to show the more human, lighter side. you know, president reagan used the correspondents' dinner to tackle something, concerns from voters and the public about his age in 1988. he made a joke about being older than the invention of the wheel. so, it's nothing new for presidents to use this platform of the white house correspondents' dinner to do

some ribbing and hit the serious issues. david: by the way, very quickly, one bit of information from howard stern was that he said he's going to do a debate. do you think there will be a debate between biden and trump quickly? >> i would not hold my breath. he said he's going to do it the king of all media got had i am-- -- got him to say this. david: the king of all media as you say, if this was 10 years before he would have given a much harder interview than he did. but we got that tidbit of information. raise the glass for the folks at fox and thank you for being here, judy, appreciate it. >> i'll enjoy my rubber chicken dinner. david: it is. thank you for everyone at home watching. neil will be back next week. and shot out from boppa to my grandson. u're great too, ryan. not as great as the soil, though. okay... you said it.

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