man. >> the reason why he's here at 75 years of age is on the basis that he decided to flee the country in order to try and make good his escape and avoid being held responsible and accountable for his part in what had taken place . and let's be absolutely place. and let's be absolutely clear, he is clearly the one person that was responsible for organising and planning this and making sure that those that went in there had firearms and loaded firearms . firearms. >> in that case, the prime minister insists that people will soon start feeling better off after figures show the uk is officially out of recession. the office for national statistics estimates gdp rose by nought point 6% in the first three months of this year. predictions were suggesting 0.4. rishi sunak says those figures suggest the economy has real momentum . but economy has real momentum. but shadow chancellor rachel reeves accused the conservatives of being out of touch. >> if you look at this prime minister's record since rishi sunak became prime minister the economy is still £300 worse off

per person in the country. so this these numbers today are not deserving of the victory lap that rishi sunak and jeremy hunt seem to want to go on. >> in other news, a psychotic ex—prisoner who attacked and killed a grandfather has been handed an indefinite hospital order at the old bailey today. thomas o'halloran was riding his mobility scooter in west london when lee bowyer stabbed him. the 87 year old suffered multiple stab wounds to his neck, his chest and his abdomen. police say the motiveless attack has left his family shocked and horrified. sir keir starmer says that flights taking migrants to rwanda would stop on day one of a labour government. the party leader has confirmed he'll scrap the scheme, calling it a gimmick. instead he's pledged to tackle illegal migration with a new border security command, which he says will include mi5 agents. dover mp natalie elphicke, who has just switched from the conservatives to the labour party, welcomes the approach, accusing rishi sunak

of failing to keep the borders secure. but the prime minister claims many of sir keir's proposals are already in place . proposals are already in place. >> the question for keir starmer, then, is if he cares so much about that , why did he vote much about that, why did he vote against the new laws that we pass to give our law enforcement officers new powers? they've now used those to arrest almost a thousand people connected with illegal migration, sentenced them to hundreds of years in prison . and if it was up to him, prison. and if it was up to him, all those people will be out on our streets. so i just think it's a rank hypocrisy of this position . position. >> and stargazers are in for a chance to see the northern lights across the uk overnight, thanks to clear skies and a huge and rare solar storm, forecasts suggest they're likely to be seen across parts of northern ireland, scotland , northern ireland, scotland, northern england and, if you're in luck, south and south wales. two experts say it could be the most powerful geomagnetic storm in almost two decades. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr

code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now, though, it's time for headliners i >> -- >> hello and welcome to headliners >> i'm cressida wetton and this is your first look at saturday's newspaper as it's suddenly summer in london. and on my comedian panel tonight, i'm joined by headliners answer to the halfwits josh howie and always beach body ready. we've got lewis schaffer . you've both got lewis schaffer. you've both been enjoying the sun. >> i've good i've just i was sitting next to lewis and i noficed sitting next to lewis and i noticed he was on his phone and i noticed, you know, how you're on your screensaver, on your mobile. you put like, your loved ones. yeah. lewis has a picture of himself. >> yes, he does . you do, don't you? >>i you? >> i do, but that's what happens when your beach body , you can when your beach body, you can have a picture of yourself. >> so thank you for pointing that out . i've never been called that out. i've never been called that out. i've never been called that before and i appreciate that. >> haven't you? >> haven't you? >> not even by yourself.

>> not even by yourself. >> doesn't he look amazing? all right, let's take a look at the front pages. so the daily mail has economies going gangbusters. the telegraph has kinnock voters not in love with starmer. the times testing time for private schools as belts tighten. the guardian has israel isolated as un backs palestine membership bid inews has. treasury is on is working on troop tax cut giveaway in september. and finally the daily star has. i can't log on for work boss. the sun's done a huge burp and those were your front pages . okay, were your front pages. okay, kicking off this in—depth look into the front pages with the telegraph. josh. >> so the big story they're going with is kinnock voters not in love with starmer. this is one of those we're talking about what what. but this is one of those things where someone who was asked a question on the on the week in westminster, and

they asked him the question, do you think that the voters are in love with star? we went, no, i don't think the votes are. and then it's the big front page. so, yes, of course, i guess the point is that people seemed excited about like , tony blair excited about like, tony blair getting into power. there was a certain excitement there, whereas it might just be it feels like more that we're just so sick of the tories and destroying the country for the last 14 years, there's no britpop anthem , what was it britpop anthem, what was it called? things can only get better. there's none of that. there's no buzz. >> it's not exciting. there's no obama esque , you know, this obama esque, you know, this hope. >> it's just the idea that something horrible is going to happen. that's why they're not that excited about it. and who knows? i didn't listen to the thing it was on. it was on the bbc. so that's this is obviously probably not true. he basically he said neil kinnock and i had to remember who the guy was. i'm surprised the guy was still alive. he was around like 40, 50 years ago. and he basically said people don't like starmer but they're going to like starmer. so it wasn't like, you know, this guy's horrible, but you

know, put up with it. number one, he said that that they're going to like starmer. and the second thing he says he says i don't think that the labour is going to lose. so there's like no news in it. >> but this was this was like the tories doing some serious well the telegraph thinking some, some real wishful thinking. and i've sort of i've warmed to the telegraph over the last two years working here because it does print some really good news and it's really fair about a lot of topics . then fair about a lot of topics. then suddenly they go, oh yeah, just to remind you, we are totally all in on the tories with this article, but they've actually got a in a much smaller amount of space, a much more important article in terms of all of our lives, which is almost half of cancer cases are linked to obesity. now, we've known the connection before. we know that the obesity costs billions of pounds for the nhs , pounds for the nhs, 19,000,000,ioo billion pounds for the nhs, 19,000,000,100 billion for the economy overall kills millions of people. and it turns out now half, nearly half of cancers are caused by obesity. there was a comedian , sophie hagan. i you

comedian, sophie hagan. i you know her who is overweight and when cancer uk cancer research did a campaign about three years ago now where they where they pointed out this connection between she accused them of being fat phobic because now that obesity is a much bigger killer than smoking, for example, which kills i in 5 people and that and that number, which is i in 2, which is 50, is also bull. >> it's 100. you cannot have cancerif >> it's 100. you cannot have cancer if you're hungry. your bodyis cancer if you're hungry. your body is not going to sit there and replicate cells . and replicate cells. >> that's like saying you can't have cancer if you're dead. i mean , yeah, nobody can not eat mean, yeah, nobody can not eat because they have cancer or to avoid getting well, how can how can cells we got, what, six minutes into the show without you saying something. >> yeah. because you brought it up. you didn't. i wasn't even going to think about it. but you're saying half of all cancer stop thinking caused are caused by obesity. the fact is, is you need to you need to have the fat. you need to be fat. your body needs to be overdosing on on carbohydrates in order to cause cancer. this is what i

believe is what you believe. >> i will push back and say it doesn't seem to be what? yeah you know, medical science believes. >> i think they didn't believe that half of the people was caused by obesity. they didn't believe that. well, i'm saying 100. >> so what you're saying is there'll be a future study coming out where 100% is caused by obesity. >> on its way, you take you look right here. it's going to be, oh, is it the fat that causes the cancer? >> or is it just that if you are a very fat person, you're likely to have a diet that doesn't provide all the good stuff that prevents cancer? no >> so if you're in order for in for order a by a cell to be cancerous, it's got to duplicate uncontrollably. and in order to duplicate, it's got to have the resources to duplicate uncontrollably. if you cut back on the resources , it will not on the resources, it will not duplicate uncontrollably. fascinating. >> not necessarily true, but fascinating. moving on to the times now. >> lewis story number two testing time for private schools as belts tighten. admissions fall amid fears of labour, vat on fees . and this is another

on fees. and this is another thing. you know, it's like these these are newspapers in this country. these are these are basically this is just what is it? i don't know what i think. >> it's a newspaper. >> it's a newspaper. >> i'm gonna stick with that. >> i'm gonna stick with that. >> what do you think ? >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> well, it looks like i thought that you'd like this story because it's all about belts tightening, but, i mean, support belt tightening. >> i myself, you know, you mentioned how great i don't probably look that that good sitting down here, but it's taken a long time for me to lose weight. but that's not the point of this story. the story is that is that. well, i think about it all day long. that's all i think about, because i used to be fat and disgusting and you're not fat and disgusting and neither are you. so you don't think about it anyway. it's they're saying that private schools people aren't going to private schools anymore. and the reason they're not going to private schools is because they're they're putting in the labour has said they're going to put in, vat, vat. >> what is it, vat because on an individual basis, that little bit extra you'd think wouldn't stop somebody who wanted a lot extra is it. >> yeah. well yeah. vat and 20.

yeah. it's 20% for millionaires. it's going to be not that big deal >> but this idea that, oh, they can afford it. but you're saying no, there's a there's a lot of people who are struggling to send their children to private school. >> yeah. and it's a, it's a sort of a circle, this vicious circle where they, they want to get a job just earning enough money to send their kids to private school. so their kids will then get another job when they're grown up, they earn just enough money to send their kids to private school. >> this is like the people who are on benefits, who want to not do too many hours a week. it's a very similar. >> it's like the posh, similar, the posh version of it. >> i don't agree with that. they're making money and they're thinking themselves, can i send my kid to private school? and if an extra 20% may stop them as obviously stopping some? yeah, but it hasn't even come in yet. >> that's the thing. so the idea that numbers are already decreasing , i would say it's decreasing, i would say it's more to the fact that they already have, like this one school has a 5.5% increase anyway, just because costs are going up people, they've got to pay going up people, they've got to pay their teacher. if you're going to get these amazing teachers that we can't get in the state sector, you've got to actually pay them a little bit

of money. >> fair enough. so what's the guardian running with josh, israel isolated as un backs palestine membership bid. i bet they loved writing that one, but they loved writing that one, but they all got really excited today. woohooi we get to write this. so yeah this is the un basically putting out the message that if you kill loads of jews and rape them, then you can be rewarded with a state. well done un, you are paraphrasing there aren't you? oh yeah. sorry. yes, a little bit. i didn't quote that properly but yeah like the kurds, you know they obviously i saw someone online said yeah, they've obviously not raped enough people to get their own state. but, yeah, hamas did so lewis, anything on this or shall we move on? >> no. they say exactly the same thing is that. but but the truth is, the un has always been against israel, even when they voted for israel. most you know, they didn't let all them. >> it was a league of nations, league of united nations was i think there was the united nafions think there was the united nations at that. >> no, it wasn't league of united nations anyway. >> no, josh, he was there. >> no, josh, he was there. >> maybe it was. yeah. >> maybe it was. yeah. >> okay, finally, let's go to the daily star lewis daily star,

which is i've actually read the daily star for the first time. >> this, this just just an hour ago. i can't log on for work , ago. i can't log on for work, boss. the sun's done a huge burp. vie lakhovsky. and this is. this is what's going on in the sky. the sun is. the sun has got a huge hole in it or something. and they don't they don't know what the sun is. and i know more than they know because i know velikovsky, which is the sun . the sun is probably is the sun. the sun is probably hollow . hollow. >> the sun is probably hollow. >> the sun is probably hollow. >> brilliant. i think that sounds like a great idea. no internet for a short period of time. love it. >> yeah, and but if there's no internet for a short period of time, then lewis, might not have such mental ideas. if he can't watch these videos about the sun being hollow , i bet he's got being hollow, i bet he's got some on his hard drive. >> okay, that's the front pages looked at. join us in part two when we'll be discussing starmer's plans for border control. the tories poll phobia and just stop oils most recent act of vandalism. they're very pleased with themselves.

okay. welcome back to headliners. i'm chris whitten. this is your first look at saturday's newspapers. i'm still joined by josh howie. and louis schaefer joined co—joined conjoined. >> not like a glued kind of. >> not like a glued kind of. >> anyway, beginning with the daily mail, louis has kia been a bit hasty with his plans? >> that me up the rwanda scheme? >> that me up the rwanda scheme? >> that's big. keir starmer. josh says we're the same person. really? keir starmer. says left wing activists who call for open border migrations are wrong . big border migrations are wrong. big deal border migrations are wrong. big deal. this is a big deal. so i guess the thing is nowadays that people who are voicing concerns about illegal, migration, you can't call them racist . you're can't call them racist. you're like, no, the keir starmer says that we can finally talk about it. this is him somewhat growing a backbone, standing up to the far left rump , of his party or far left rump, of his party or of the political movement and it

doesn't. i know the world. he's he doesn't sound team worldy to me. that sounds like someone who's actually willing to have a, someone who's more conservative than the conservatives know. someone who's willing to have a proper conversation about migration and into this country. >> or maybe none of those things. maybe he just wants to win and he knows that if he sits there and says, you know, we should have open immigration, he's not going to win as much as he's not going to win as much as he was going to win. this is just politics. he's just saying to everybody, keep it down until we get elected. and then it will take over the place. i don't think hitler was saying we're going to be nazis before maybe. i think, yeah, i think he was . i think, yeah, i think he was. >> he wrote a book called mein kampf. >> yeah. but that's what it's like. they don't they, they don't sit there saying, this is what we're all going to do when we get elected . they wait till we get elected. they wait till they get elected and then they i don't know, i think people are concerned about, illegal immigration. >> and i think this shows that he's listening. and, and i think that's somewhat hopeful. and i think that he's right. and, you know, a lot of the times everybody goes, oh my god , look everybody goes, oh my god, look at the left. they're desperate to get migration in. i'm sort of doing that in a scottish accent,

we, yeah, we but but the thing is that tony, even tony blair was aware and wrote of the dangers when he was in power. >> and look what tony blair did. >> and look what tony blair did. >> he basically destroyed this country. they let people like me come in and then the whole thing's been downhill since. >> the point is, this has been a is and i don't see it as a left right issue. but the far left is certainly creeping into the left have made it this thing where if you talk about it, that automatically must mean that you are racist. if you, as he says here, to have this kind of open borders policy where anybody born anywhere in the world can go anywhere, that's just not realistic . and also that's to realistic. and also that's to sort of imply that every culture is somewhat the same. >> and look at what rishi sunak did. rishi sunak said were totally against immigration. he's let everybody come in. so he's a liar and so is so is keir starmer. i don't think you can put much into this except keir starmer wants to get elected so badly. >> i'd say he's a potential liar at this point. >> louis. >> louis. >> yeah. potential liar. okay.

>> yeah. potential liar. okay. >> all right. give him that. >> all right. give him that. >> staying with the telegraph, jeremy hunt thinks the conservatives are losing their nerve, but aren't they just coming to their senses, louis? >> well, that's another that's the exact same thing. tory mps losing their nerve because of dire polls. as jeremy hunt, who is the councillor or chancellor of the exchequer. he's the guy who handles the money. he's that guy very skinny. a lot of these guys have very, very skinny and he says that the tories have, they because there's a 30 point lead over the over the, over the tories by labour that a lot of the tories are thinking, you know, or whatever. and they're right to think that because they're going to lose, they're going to lose . yeah. going to lose. yeah. >> he says that divided parties don't win elections. that's true. also parties that have destroyed a country over 14 years, they tend to not win elections as well. >> they tend not to. >> they tend not to. >> i don't think they've destroyed the country. they're on their way to destroying the country. josh. but i think they've done their best to destroy this. >> i don't think you're being generous enough there. >> give him some credit for the take it away from them.

>> what else can rishi do to impress you? >> to impress me? he could. he could do what? there's nothing he could do. basically half of the tory party doesn't support him and the other half does. so you can't win with half a party. you've got to have all your. he's basically right. you've got to have you got to have your entire party to fight. >> the other thing is, as he says here, he says that the conservative governments, they trust us to take tough and difficult decisions in the long term interest of the economy. that they haven't done it. that's that's exactly what they've not done. they've gone with a bunch of populist, stupid stuff. the hard stuff , the stuff. the hard stuff, the fixing the schools ahead of time. investigate investing the money. >> i don't think it's that long term stuff that they've done. i don't know if i'd say populist. the times next, and a group of activist trans campaigners have been trying have been accused of trying to exert undue influence on a human rights watchdog . i on a human rights watchdog. i can hardly believe that. josh. >> yeah, un throws out stonewall's bid to downgrade the ehrc over the trans rule. now the ehrc, the equality and human rights commission, independent

body from the government, and stonewall complain to the un, along with some other lgbtqia+ organisations that, they were trans hostile and not fit for purpose. this is because the ehrc did this terrible thing where they actually did their job to protect women's rights . job to protect women's rights. what? how crazy is that? and as baroness falkner says here, their job baroness falkner says here, theirjob is to demonstrate impartiality on the balancing of different rights when they come up into conflict with each other, which is what, unfortunately, gender ideology and women's rights in particular do. and because she dared do that, because she dared say that women should have their own protected spaces and sports and jails and whatever it is, the trans activists have come out. they did a campaign against where they tried to get her fired, and they were like, try these claims that she was being bullied. >> it was hostile, trans hostile. >> but they were saying that she

was bullied, a bully and all this kind of stuff. and it came out secretly in the press and it was like really underhanded stuff. but fortunately, kemi badenoch stood in front of it, went, all right, where's the evidence now? let's deal with it and got it all thrown out. but that kind of stuff normally works and sticks and did to other people for years. so now finally, people are standing up and going, nah, mate, this is not cool. yeah >> i feel like finally, finally. >> i feel like finally, finally. >> yeah , the tide is turning and >> yeah, the tide is turning and all it took was for hundreds of people's lives . people's lives. >> thousands. i don't know how many to be ruined. >> the tide is turning. it's going to be put back as soon as labour comes in. probably. so what does this mean? it doesn't mean anything. >> the tide is turning. no, that's not true. wes streeting says he's going to go along with the casper. they've. i think they truly understand that people people i think general pubuc people people i think general public are aware of what's going on out there and are speaking up.andi on out there and are speaking up. and i think that they finally caught on to that. >> non—voterjosh, i don't believe it . i don't believe it believe it. i don't believe it as a non—voter as somebody who's totally out of it, i didn't vote in america. >> go down to ladbrokes and put a tenner on it. can't you, moving on to the guardian, is this some good news, lewis? >> this is good news. us, uk.

sorry, i forgot what country i'm in. uk has moved out of recession. official figures show. so this is what's happened. this is numbers have been released from the office of national statistics. it says it's the economy has gone up by 4x4 tenths of a percent in the past three months, which means it's not a recession . it's two it's not a recession. it's two quarters going down, which we had two, two. i think it's two. okay whatever. if it's not two, if doctor louis go to louis two. >> that's good enough, i don't know. >> do you think i know this? i'm just. i'm just here because they've got it written in front of you. they're paying me. it says whatever. anyway, so the recession is over. it's good news ahead. this is not going to help the tories but also these things just because they correlate on paper doesn't mean that that that's how it's felt in people's lives. >> because there's a lag effect. but there is something i thought that was quite funny in the middle of this, where it says the part of this is because of a boom in private health care. so because the nhs be so rubbish,

people are going to bupa or whatever it is and spending their money there, and that's helping the economy . and then helping the economy. and then the tories can turn around and 90, the tories can turn around and go, look, we, we're doing, it's working , taking credit for work working, taking credit for work that's not there. >> so finally in this section , >> so finally in this section, the latest antics from those cheeky young idealists at just stop oil . when will they grow stop oil. when will they grow up, josh? >> when will they grow up? indeed. just apple eco zealots have gone from harmless hippies to committing reckless acts of criminal damage. this is according to a tory policing minister, chris philip. and this is because, an 82 year old anglican priest and a retired teacher who's 85, they attacked the magna carta, arguably the most important document in the world. maybe there it is there. and here they are, these two codgers. am i allowed to say that , i codgers. am i allowed to say that, i think, yeah, and they're trying to break in through the glass to destroy this 800 year old document that is basically pretty much the foundational document of civil liberties in the western world. and, they the good news is that they're so

weak that they did very little damage to the glass. >> look at this. it's like something chris morris would have written in, like the early 2000. >> how can you make satire anymore? this is and first of all, you're wrong because they didn't attack the magna carta. >> they attack the case that the magna carta was in. >> what are they going to do if they get through to it inside? don't they glue whatever is what i mean? >> it's a long way to go. it's like you bang it on the door of the of the of the building itself. i mean, it's crazy. i feel bad for these people. they're so old. this you know, they're your age, aren't they? yeah, practically my age. >> and you date them both? >> and you date them both? >> that i heard. >> that i heard. >> he dated them both. just before they were driven to do that. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> we don't want freedom. the death of love. >> they weren't bad looking, you know, at a certain age . at know, at a certain age. at a certain age like that, you look at them, they got a little bit of life left, a little bit of life. but, you know, they should be killed. they should be killed. >> well, okay, well, i'll push back on that and say, that's not entirely reasonable. i don't think they should be killed, but i'm very unimpressed. that's it for part two. but coming up, we'll find out what it costs to escape britain. lord cameron of

chipping norton's plan to save some of the taxpayers cash. and lewis is going to tell us why black americans like trump so much

hello. welcome back to headliners beginning with the daily mail. louis, how can it cost? £12,000 to get into the uk and another 500 to get out, that's what i was trying to explain. it to my wife. she wanted to see. she wanted to see the money. migrant reveals he paid £500 to be smuggled out of britain and back to france. to dodger . juan, the deportation dodger. juan, the deportation gangs. this is it. this is in the daily mail. he was moaning. he's moaning that they're running out of passengers. but keir starmer says labour will scrap the scheme anyway . this is scrap the scheme anyway. this is a crazy story. it's a guy in france is like saying he paid £500 to be to be sent back to, to france because he didn't want to france because he didn't want to be sent to rwanda . he was

to be sent to rwanda. he was from kurdistan. his name was omar, from kurdistan . it sounds omar, from kurdistan. it sounds like kind of a kind of a rap, a rap name and the truth is, is thatis rap name and the truth is, is that is that it's like a this is like a non—story. >> well, i think that they put the story in because this is in the story in because this is in the mail and they want to go look the rather thing, it's what it is. it's a deterrent. it's not even happened yet. and then there's a few people afterwards, like actually, i don't think it is going to happen and i'm not that scared about it, but it does.i that scared about it, but it does. i think that it might be a mistake for keir starmer to say what he said. like, we're definitely going to, because if it did actually show to be a deterrent, if it somehow worked and already they've spent a fortune on it anyway , i just fortune on it anyway, i just think closing off that avenue like his, his, his, what his strategy is we're going to use this money to invest in combating the people smugglers. i think that's a really good idea . and they need to reinforce idea. and they need to reinforce that. and they also need to deal with the asylum claims quicker. so he is but i think do both. >> do both. yeah. do it all. i feel like a communist going, oh, but we haven't tried it yet, you

know, do it again. >> i think we'll just see what if it works, see if it's like it's like it's like building a wall. >> it's like biden saying, i'm not going to build a wall in mexico because donald trump wants. and then eventually he's going to he's coming around building, building the wall. they should they should do this. but they should do everything. this one little thing is not going to work to stop people from coming in. >> but yeah, but there's poor guy omar. yeah. basically what it is. he said , you can't clean it is. he said, you can't clean yourself. life is hard , this yourself. life is hard, this isn't love. >> oh, this is in cannes. >> oh, this is in cannes. >> oh, this is in cannes. >> oh , i thought he was talking >> oh, i thought he was talking aboutin >> oh, i thought he was talking about in england. i was france . about in england. i was france. oh, because. yeah, because they don't allow. they can't, they can't. you can't get washed in front. they stink. france is that. am i allowed to say that ? that. am i allowed to say that? >> look, we don't write these. >> look, we don't write these. >> just trying to appeal to the audience . audience. >> yeah, we don't write the stories. >> we just comment on them. yeah, that's like a joke out of a carry on film. isn't it? shocking we're in the times next. and lord cameron of chipping norton thinks we've spent too much on disinformation ratings agencies. now, lewis would have done this job and

probably just as good a job for £20 and a rib eye steak, wouldn't he, josh? >> yeah. cameron, says government has stopped funding the disinformation index, and this is because , unherd, which this is because, unherd, which is a very good website that features some very, clever people. yeah, including andrew, i think andrew's a lot of, andrew doyle has got a lot of, puts a lot of commentary on there, over columns. and they have basically there's this, this, this, it's called the disinformation ratings agency. that's what it is. and they blacklisted unherd global disinformation index. that's it. and then when people check out these different websites and they see it on it, they go, we don't want to advertise on there. and it's falsely on this index, the unherd, because it's actually a very, very good website, very interesting articles. people like julie bindel and kathleen stock, who writes very well about one particular issue, and because of that and trans activism, they've kind of said , no, no, that's, kind of said, no, no, that's, that's morally wrong. so anyway, the point is, david cameron has

said, we're now when it was pointed out to him, we've stopped giving the money because it turns out we'd given them £2.6 million over the years. but the scary thing is, a lot of people use this global disinformation index . and whilst disinformation index. and whilst disinformation index. and whilst disinformation is a real issue , disinformation is a real issue, and certainly there are hostile governments who use disinformation to attack the west in particular, like russia attacking the west. at the same time, they've also then overstepped their boundaries and have gone into dealing with, with, adversarial, what they call adversarial narratives. >> so why is the government of this country, why were they paying this country, why were they paying £2.6 million to this organisation? >> well, is that because this was during 2019 and the whole world was going, why were they doing this? >> it was beyond that. because because they they hated the unherd people. >> well, now they've stopped giving them money. so maybe they are hearing the but the damage was done . was done. >> the fact is, is that is that rishi sunak and the people who

came before him, that type of conservative cannot be trusted and should, you know, shouldn't be saying vote tory or vote laboun >> yeah. no, i hear you. >> yeah. no, i hear you. >> well, i think this is i mean, it's a small but brilliant step, isn't it? i don't want unherd being accused of disinformation. i mean, the whole point is it's a pun unheard, unheard. we haven't heard what they think. and it's spelt unheard like a herd of cattle. they don't follow . follow. >> oh, well, it was a pun when they first started. it was dufing they first started. it was during the covid time. i think they were coming out against covid and that they were one of the first people to come out against covid. i don't think that's why it was set up. >> they they were going to call it not team world, but they decided that was that was trademarks. louis, you love telling us what black people think. can you explain this story about their voting habits? >> black people? yeah. >> black people? yeah. >> louis, what do i think? >> louis, what do i think? >> yeah. what do i think? black you are not black, you. well, you are kind of black. why? more and more black voters are putting their faith in trump. this is in the times. putting their faith in trump. this is in the times . and this this is in the times. and this is basically they don't come up with an answer. i don't know what's going on in america. i don't live in america anymore.

i've been in this country for 25 years. but black men in america are moving to donald trump. and the reason they're moving to donald trump is because their bed.bed donald trump is because their bed. bed and bed and bed do not like biden and black women like biden and white women like biden. he's very good. you're a woman, cressett. >> well, yeah. but, you know, there's anomalies everywhere, isn't there? >> i'm i'm not a big biden fan, all right? >> you're not. but but generally speaking, there are exceptions. and he's and he's saying that, basically it doesn't really answer the question. yes it does. >> i think very, very clearly their masculinity comes before their masculinity comes before their blackness. >> and that actually colour is just not that important . just not that important. >> it's not that important in america. >> peace and cheap petrol and of functioning society as much as white men. >> or also what it says here repeatedly is they also like $1,000, .whichis repeatedly is they also like $1,000, .which is what trump claimed to have given them as a handout during the pandemic. and so this has been mentioned repeatedly by the black men. >> don't like £1,000? well, no. >> don't like £1,000? well, no. >> but then maybe white people

also more voting for well, maybe this is just a but the point is, it's a scourge. it's been more of a shift from and in places like michigan, which is a swing state, it's a really it's that could be the election. >> and also because michigan is like filled with a lot of muslims coming into the country and, and, and the black people who've been living in these places see their country, see their country changing just the same way as anybody else, as anybody else would change. so this is just a it's like they're like normal people now . now like normal people now. now after a while, they become like normal people. >> black people are like normal people. you heard it here first. amazing >> yeah. i'm proud to say that you're a real progressive rafe next. >> and kate silverton thinks the bbc could have done more to challenge lockdown. i think anything would have been nice, wouldn't it, josh? >> yeah, i left the bbc as the impact of covid policies on children were being ignored, says kate silverton. so it's good that she left the bbc rather than working from within to actually highlight the impact of covid policies on children,

where that might have done a little bit more good. but she's talking to psychologies magazine. she's retrained now as a therapist and good on her. but she you know, it's famous bbc newsreader. and she'd been on dancing with the whoevers and, and, and she said, yeah, she's quit because she was questioning a lot of the policies that weren't being interrogated as rigorously as they might have been journalistically or, and whatever. so it's like , well, whatever. so it's like, well, i'm really sick of people leaving organisations . we keep leaving organisations. we keep on seeing it with government ministers and various people. they go, they leave the organisation and they criticise. they go, oh well, i left it and this is what they should do. why are you not changing it? >> if she'd done this during the craziness it would have blown up, wouldn't it? it would have been a big story at the time because most people weren't criticising any of it, because maybe she didn't have an opinion back then. >> no she did. >> no she did. >> she had an opinion. >> she had an opinion. >> she had an opinion. >> she said she had an opinion back then, but maybe she knew she was going to be fired like all those other ones who were suing the bbc. there were four of those women who are suing the bbc. maybe she knew she was going to be sued. she's 53 years old and times change. you know,

people aren't that interested in me anymore. so i better leave the company and not about her. >> but there's a what's it called? what's it called? >> the spotlight someone was talking about. but the idea is that he would. >> cressida said. what about her busy talking? >> no, because i want to make a serious point, which is this isn't journalism, it's about . isn't journalism, it's about. no, it's both. >> it's both. louis and you. please get that in your head, what's left of it. yeah but the serious point is that when journalists don't deliberately don't focus on certain things , don't focus on certain things, it's not that they lie necessarily, it's that they choose what to focus on and what to not focus on. and journalists a lot of journalists. and this is why something like gb news was set up , is why something like gb news was setup, was to shine a light was set up, was to shine a light on some of the places that other journalists seem too cowardly to have looked into. >> i do agree, but good on her, at least for this now, because if you're saying she's a psychotherapist, isn't that i mean, that's useful, isn't it? because what i'm thinking of is, lest we forget stuff, right. because we always forget personally, do not plan to be

locked down ever again. they'll have to take me kicking and screaming , i like that. screaming, i like that. >> it depends if you meet the right man. cresta >> another news. that was my joke. >> i made the same joke that you just made. >> oh. did you? yes, i did in your head so that no one could hear it. >> no, i did say it. i said that's what i like to eat. whatever it was, it was the same. >> i thought you weren't meant politically. you were with me. i didn't realise it was a smutty good. >> i thought you smutty. i thought you'd weed your pants. >> smutty thing. she didn't want to be fired. >> oh, very high brow. another new sexual orientation covered in the times. now, lewis, what does military curious mean? >> military curious. is this quy- >> military curious. is this guy. what they want to do is they want to get summer boot camps to give teenagers a taste of army life. that's that's the times. and they're pushing the idea of having boot camps because they they already have it. it's called army reserves. there's people who are like part time, in part time out. they're going to be called when needed and killed and died because we don't want to die. and there are 25,000 of them already in there, and they need 32,000. and so they they just they're just saying we need to get more

people. it's one of these stories. they did a story last week. every week they're doing a story about how they got to get military people in. >> this is interesting because it's open to youngsters over 18 andifs it's open to youngsters over 18 and it's just one week. so it's not the reserves where you have to sign up for a certain amount of time. you've got to be it's just one week and you're going to go in and they're going to be like, look how great it is in the military. and we're not going to make you do push ups and we're going to speak to you. nice. hello. would you mind going, let's go for a little walk together shall we. >> and let's shoot a gun @gbnews. yeah. and then, then you get signed up, then you get you get signed up, then you get you sign, you let cressida finish her sentence. >> she's interrupting me. actually, no. >> yes, she was, because she's got a sentence and she's. >> so she waits for me to finish it. then. >> so she waits for me to finish it.then.then >> so she waits for me to finish it. then. then she say no, don't be rude. >> you're being rude to cressida. oh my god, you're being condescending. >> i won't mention it. josh, you were saying i wasn't blah blah. >> i wasn't listening to it anyway . anyway. >> no, because it's this whole people don't like this serious thing . josh, was that a serious thing? >> i was gearing up for a punchline and you ruined it. >> you. >> you. >> i want to hit you in the head because you go on and on. >> remember when we had those

paddles that said joke that we thought we needed for the metro? but it turns out we need for each other. yeah maybe a joke. >> sad joke. did you say funny, lewis? >> i don't know, i don't have to say anything funny. >> do you feel like funny? i don't believe any of this stuff. but that's what she said. >> is there a point? >> is there a point? >> there is a point. the point is . >> there is a point. the point is. is that. is that it doesn't matter anyway. there's going to be a new election coming in and everything is going to change. so everything that happens now, people are not going to i disagree. >> i think this story does matter . we >> i think this story does matter. we haven't >> i think this story does matter . we haven't got >> i think this story does matter. we haven't got any testosterone. all the young boys are playing computer games. yeah. and this is nothing to do with the next general election. >> are they going to be forced to be in there ? no no no no to be in there? no no no no they're not going to be. >> that's my point . they're not >> that's my point. they're not going to be. >> what you don't know is yeah, maybe you do because you are a man. but is that if some of these the boys that go on this, they might have no other route in. typically people go to the military. if there's already somebody in their family, it's not something that they necessarily think about, right. and they might get a taste for it. it might be the making of them. it could be the difference between them ending up being a drug dealer and going to prison

and being a tough guy, saving the country. yeah. and goodness knows we need some of those. >> i want to do it. >>— >> i want to do it. >> and i had the same thought . >> and i had the same thought. >> and i had the same thought. >> i mean, maybe not all of it, but i did think, well, that's one of these. >> when is it going to be done, cressida? >> when is it going to be done? well, i'm sure that's what they're setting up now. >> it's the new head of the reservists sort of like he's an updated colonel blimp basically thrown it out into the into the floor over there and hope somebody picks it up. >> well, headliners happened. >> well, headliners happened. >> headline is approved and that'll make it make it reality . that'll make it make it reality. >> let's make it. >> let's make it. >> i don't know if i approve. i do approve of it. >> if you don't approve, i'm definitely approve of somebody else going into the military. that's it for part three. join us in the final section when we'll find out what leg locking is, what netflix is accused of , is, what netflix is accused of, and what the left and

soon. hello. welcome back to headliners okay. final section. time now. apologies for the lack of trigger warning on this one

from the metro. josh, i imagine it's pretty close to home for you. >> i was going to say something along those lines. yes let's call leg locking what it is sexual assault. i've never heard of leg locking before, but dufing of leg locking before, but during intercourse, when women lock their legs in a way that forces men to do their business and anyway, to have a baby , the and anyway, to have a baby, the point is that is arguably non—consensual. now sexual assault. rape in this country requires a willy , legally. so requires a willy, legally. so there the argument that it's sexual assault, it's a very hard thing to prove. but i thought that this. i just thought it was marriage and now i found out that you don't have to be married to be abused , and married to be abused, and against consensually a man against consensually a man against your will. so, and the other thing is what it says is to the only way to prove it is to the only way to prove it is to film it. >> so. >> so. >> so. >> so basically, what they're saying is, and this is the future now, they say all sex has to be filmed to prove afterwards. both parties can go

away with a copy and go look, it was consensual. >> so naive. if you think that somebody couldn't retrospect , somebody couldn't retrospect, actively sell that as a problem. i mean, come on, are you telling me that there's a woman out there who's going to sell those tapes ? tapes? >> this this whole story is ridiculous because, number one, it says it said that. it said that , that said that the pullout that, that said that the pullout method for contraceptives is not foolproof, being around 80% effective, 80% effective is not very effective. isn't that the name of your first kid? 80% effective is not. secondly secondly, they're making it seem like having that women having wanting children or even men wanting children or even men wanting children or even men wanting children is not is freakish. what people tend to want children ? i don't want children? i don't personally, but they tend to want children. but the other side of it is, is that, is that there is that they're making it seem like having children is bad, which. >> well, some men don't want kids interesting and some women do want kids. >> she says something

interesting . interesting. >> she just said interesting. she didn't say something interesting. she just said interesting. she just said interesting. that doesn't count as actually being interesting. but what i'm going to say now is interesting is that there are men who don't want sex, and there are women. men who don't want children, and women do . and want children, and women do. and this has been proven. it was like in some tv show. but in a reality tv show, they were talking about it and saying, yeah, this is what she does. and this husband doesn't want to have kids, and this wife is saying, yeah, i do it. ha! and i'm just sick of it, and i don't want any more children . want any more children. >> it's the ha ha ha at the end that really got you, isn't it? yeah. it's terrible. i mean, it's well, what is it? it's the death of love, isn't it, louis? >> i mean, the death. >> i mean, the death. >> we get all these stories. it's always men versus women. it's always men versus women. it's never like same page, same team, which is very sad. >> but that's reality. it's reality. >> a story about someone suing netflix for an unflattering depiction of them. now, i bet you'd love to be vilified on netflix, wouldn't you? well you know what? >> luckily, i've seen this. i'm suing netflix, says woman named as baby reindeer stalker. that's that big show. have you seen the show? yeah with the big with the with the guy. and then the big richard guzman, richard gadd,

this woman, fiona harvey, she was on, she was on piers morgan. who was. >> don't mention that name. louis. >> why can't we mention that name? >> i don't know, we you can mention one of his free speech channel. >> free speech because he's on there and she's saying, that was me. >> i'm going to sue you now for exposing me. but that was me no one knew was her. no one knew who the hell this woman was. but this is that programme on netflix where he very popular. it's very, very popular. it basically says that women are horrible, but an interesting side note, it doesn't say that it's. so does this woman is horrible. but at the exact same time it points out how horrible he is and how horrible men are. >> and he says hurt people , hurt people. >> but, you know, he seemed he didn't seem that hurt. she didn't seem that hurt. she didn't know. >> what are you talking about? >> what are you talking about? >> she's hurt. >> she's hurt. >> i'm saying i haven't gotten her. i said he didn't seem that hurt. >> he's hurt . >> he's hurt. >> he's hurt. >> i think louis watched something else. >> i saw i saw every single episode. >> did you see reindeer games with ben affleck that you might be getting confused with? the i was stalked by. i had a stalker. >> josh, we've only got. okay.

sorry i just i'll save that story for another episode. >> sweet josh for his stalker story, i only do it, but not the stalker. >> how can you how can you argue about that story? >> a growing art form in the guardian. >> now, josh, punching up against colonialism is glorious. the unstoppable rise of indian comedy in the uk. this is quite an interesting kind of interview . with the incredible increase of and success of indian stand up comedy that really came about by me, i well, don ward, who owns the comedy store , he owns the comedy store, he started a comedy store in mumbai. i was one of the first comics to go over and do it, and they loved my act so much that now it's become a multinational over there. they loved it. they said i could do that better. and they and you know what? and the funny thing was, there were people there who were open spots who were indian. they were rubbish. they were . really hack. rubbish. they were. really hack. and then you go back a year later and they were like amazing. and they we all progressed. >> why are you praising them? this is because i'm saying they work hard and they they learn. >> they did it so much quicker

than any british acts i've ever seen, because it's already been done for a hundred years already. >> they got millions of hours of videotapes. they know exactly they're copying. yeah, of course they're copying. yeah, of course they're copying. yeah, of course they're copying. i mean, i'm not saying they can't be as as good. it's cultural appropriation. they've basically stolen a british mish. i was a british stuff. american stuff, american jewish stuff . and they brought jewish stuff. and they brought it here, you know, and then you bfing it here, you know, and then you bring it there and the next it's all, it's all it's all stolen. i'm against it. 100. no one wants to see these people. a bunch of rich , rich indians. bunch of rich, rich indians. there's tons of them. >> unbelievable. okay the daily mail now, i thought china was trying to divide and conquer us, but apparently their food unites the uk's left and right. lewis. >> yeah, this is an interesting story, because i didn't really understand it. and i haven't seen the questions and i haven't seen the questions and i haven't seen the questions and i haven't seen the questions. >> i haven't seen the questions. >> i haven't seen the questions. >> we don't have questions . >> we don't have questions. >> we don't have questions. >> but this best for britain poll says britain's political tastes reveal tories prefer fish and chips, while labour supporters would rather order pizza. both parties choose chinese food as their favourite. so what they're saying is if you ask , if you ask anybody who what

ask, if you ask anybody who what their favourite food is in this country , they love chinese food. country, they love chinese food. they love chinese food. their second, the indians, the indian, excuse me, the tories like fish and chips. second, and the labour likes pizza second. is that news? yes according to the daily mail, i guess they got a lot of pages to fill up. >> so she repeats a man i am, but i'm, you know, i'm pizza let pizza with. but i like a fish and chip with on the pizza. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> josh howie sentencing the most disgusting meal i've ever heard of. okay, the show is nearly over, so let's take another quick look at saturday's front pages, the daily mail has economies going gangbusters. the telegraph, kinnock voters not in love with starmer. the times testing time for private schools as belts tighten . the guardian as belts tighten. the guardian israel isolated as un backs palestine membership bid i news has treasury is working on £0.02 tory tax giveaway in september.

and finally the daily star. i can't log on for work boss. the sun's done a huge burp which is something to do with velikovsky. and those were your front pages. was it? i don't know, that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests , josh howie and louis my guests, josh howie and louis schaefer. i'll be back here tomorrow with nick dixon in this seat and my lovely colleague paul cox. and if you're watching , am, please stay tuned for breakfast. yeah. dixon and cox here tomorrow. enjoy it. >> good night. and cresta. >> good night. and cresta. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. the warm weather will continue into the weekend for many. another cracking day tomorrow if you like. it's sunny, but we are in for a change by sunday. in the west where we could well see some thunderstorms in the east. it's mist and low cloud that's

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armstrong and denis macshane. but first, let's go to the . news. >> very good evening to you from the newsroom . it's just after the newsroom. it's just after 7:00 and leading the news tonight. a man who led an armed robbery during which a police officer was shot dead has today been sentenced to a minimum of 40 years behind bars. 38 year old pc sharon beshenivsky was fatally shot when she interrupted the raid in bradford nearly 20 years ago. 75 year old peeran dita khan, who spent 15 years on the run, was found guilty of murder despite not pulling the trigger himself. he's the last of seven men involved in that robbery to be convicted. retired detective chief superintendent andy brennan described ditta khan as a violent man. >> the reason why he's here at 75 years of age is on the basis that he decided to flee the country in order to try and make

good his escape and avoid being held responsible and accountable for his part in what had taken place. and let's be absolutely clear, he is clearly the one person that was responsible for organising and planning this and making sure that those that went in there had firearms and loaded firearms. in that case, a former prisoner has also been detained in hospital indefinitely. >> for what a judge at the old bailey described as the senseless killing of an elderly mobility scooter rider . the mobility scooter rider. the court heard that lee baker was psychotic when he stabbed thomas o'halloran in august 2022. the 87 year old grandfather suffered multiple wounds to his neck, his chest and his abdomen. just five days before that attack in west london, baker had been released from jail on bail after serving 12 years for robbery . sir keir 12 years for robbery. sir keir starmer has vowed to make british shores hostile territory for people smuggling gangs. if he becomes prime minister. the labour leader is pledging to use mi5 labour leader is pledging to use m15 agents against traffickers

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